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[Dwylbtzle]

they used to do that in EVERY episode!

kirk would scream:
"SULU! I NEED THOSE SHIELDS UP NOW, DAMMIT!"

and then they would shoot to a shot of sulu's face, GRIMACING with
physical exertion--sweat popping out of his brow,
(with the intense PHYSICAL STRAIN),
as he gurgles: "I' ...m T RY ...ING, CAPTAIN!"

and, even as a small child, i used to wonder--"what the HELL can he POSSIBLY be doing,
except pushing a button HARDER
or turning a dial HARDER
:{?
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[papabear]

[Dwylbtzle]

i THOUGHT i mighta made a joke, once
i mean i thought i had created a whole new "joke" joke

i was figuring i could engineer some larfable stand-up-comedian/type joke
involving the questionable value of scented toilet paper
and that's the only "joke" joke that i have ever been able to create

but then, years later, i saw some retro-spective tv show/documentary kind thing
with clips from old ancient gallagher stand-up routines
(various ones, spread out over years of performances)

and he'd done almost the exact joke i was thinking of
back in the eighties, already
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[papabear]

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[Mary Whitehouse]

Just a reminder for Roy. The Runaways dropped on DVD
and Blu-Ray yesterday.
It should be available for purchase or rental today.

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[Dwylbtzle]

yeah
i've seen it as i was walking out of a walgreens drugstore the other day
it was in one of those little red phone booth-looking boxes
something about how you rent the CD for a dollar per night
and then come back and drop it into the box
but i was walking to my car and didn't feel like figuring the whole thing out

i'll probably stop and check it out better--and figure out how to work the whole thing
next time i go by that store

the pic on the CD showed the two actresses who were supposed to be joan jett and cherrie currey
they got it pretty damn close!
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[Dwylbtzle]

well
i turned on the tv and noticed the last hour of FOXES was viewable
so i'm watching the last hour
i think i saw it in 1980 when it came out

guess who's in it
(besides a teenage jody foster)

cherrie currey
lead singer of the runaways
hehehe
i think it's the only movie she ever did

musta been no more than a coupla years after the band ended

or at least since she left
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[Mary Whitehouse]

The Runaways is just an overall great ROCK flick. The trueisms
about the nature of rock and roll fall out of the
Kim Foley characters mouth like foam from a
rabid raccoon. Kind of breathtaking
to hear actually.

He hires a bunch of trailer park kids like the bottle throwers
in Trailer Park Boys to collect beer cans, bottles and garbage
to throw at the girls while they rehearse, and Joan Jett finds
it a valuable peice of practise indeed.
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[Dwylbtzle]

yeah, in that documentary, EDGEPLAY, they interviewed him
and he said he liked boot camp so much, when he was in the army,
he joined the marines, or something, when his first hitch was up
just so he could go thru another boot camp again

so he developed a boot camp for rock bands
and had people throw bottles and garbage cans onto the stage
and cause surprise disturbances of various kinds
when they were practicing
just so the band members would be un-phased when something really happened

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i just finally watched AVATAR
sheesh
for all the hoopla
that really wasn't THAT good of a movie
was it?


i mean, BESIDES the fact that the plot was just an abridged corn-ball truncated version of DANCES WITH WOLVES
even above and beyond all THAT
(and the cornball dialogue)
there was something that made it so's i just couldn't get INTO it much,
and, finally i realized it's because one is more likely to be able to suspend
one's disbelief in a straight up cartoon show movie
than if yer jumping back and forth all the time

you just keep getting reminded yer watching cgi effects
and you keep being reminded of how fakey it all is
as good as they are

shoulda stuck all the way one or the other
real or fake

whatever format yer utilizing
stick the frick to THAT

i related to the charcters in the SIMPSON'S movie
more than i did these guys

jumping in and out of cartoon land disrupts the imagination's focus

if yer doing a damn cartoon movie
then do a damn cartoon movie
fine

it wouldn't work if bart simpson was shown as a real human being (actually filmed with photography)
during half the damn film
and then have him pop back and forth as a cartoon bart
during the other half of the movie
and pretend it's the same world
or universe
or format
like nobody's gonna notice that it's a cartoon again suddenly
derr!
the cgi effects weren't THAT damn good
every time that fukker gets in that box
you go:
"oh great--here the movie goes back to a cartoon, again"

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[Dwylbtzle]

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[Mary Whitehouse]

I agree with your whole analysis.
I'm sick to death of animated shit
messing with my suspention of disbelief
at most of these effects movies.

I keep telling people I'm sick of C.G.I.
yet when it's Toy Story and the whole thing
is animated I don't encounter the jarring
effect that the mixed media gives me
and enjoy it as just a cartoon.

Done the other way around as in all the Ralph
Bakshi Rotoscoped classics where actors on film
are transformed into cartoons of themselves, I
have no problem with suspending disbelief either.

The Jurrassic Park Series and The Lord of the Rings
Trilogy were the last franchises to use C.G.I. properly.
Then the technology became HYPER-REAL and started
to stick out like a sore thumb. It looks so VIDEO GAMISH
to me that it disturbs my equilibrium. Avatar felt like a video
game. Peter Jackson's King Kong had me longing for a guy in
a monkey suit or some Ray Harryhausen stop motion animation,
anything except the hyper real cyber cartoon Kong we
ended up with.
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[Mary Whitehouse]

The only recent film in which I very much enjoyed the C.G.I.
was in Jackson's The Lovely Bones. Weird how the same director
can use the graphics well in some films but not as well in many others.

By and large though today's super C.G.I. million man armies
etc. etc. just make me long for the Cecil B. DeMille epics of
the past where you needed 10,000 extras to run around in
battle with real smoke, real fire and real horses and lions.
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[Dwylbtzle]

yeah
i'd rather watch six giant monkeys walking around the camera in a circle
so it LOOKS like an endless stream of giant monkeys passing by
even though yer really looking at the same six giant monkeys


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yeah
everyone
in EVERY movie
is "asked" to suspend their disbelief
and either you find a way to do that
in the first 60 seconds
or you just can't get into that movie

makes it damn had when suddenly yer watching a movie where you have to do it all over again
every ten minutes
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[Mary Whitehouse]

Just saw Beowulf. All CGI but pretty good. Neil Gaiman messes
around with the story a little to give it a more modern approach
but all in all a good flick. 6.5 out of ten.
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[Dwylbtzle]

if you mean the most recent of the many beowulf movies
yeah
it was that weird blended cgi
but it was ALL that
they didn't jump back and forth from that to pure regular photography
like avatar did
so it wasn't hard to just get into it

i liked the fact that it had the girl from matchstick men

and she's talking about "swiving wenches" and stuff
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